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Hello,
« on: October 16, 2007, 03:22:25 PM »

   I've just graduated in Philosophy and trying to reconcile the positive achieving side of me , with the part which has to have therapy . it feels  like there are bits and bobs of me all over the place!

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Re: Hello,
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2007, 03:34:08 PM »
Hi Ems. Welcome to the forum!   :D

Sounds like an interesting contrast. Have you ever treated yourself as a philosophy assignment as a way of trying to get some distance and perspective? I've always wanted to try that myself as a way to formulate some rules for living that I can call upon when anxiety and depression cause indecision. I still have't managed it!

Anyway, welcome again. I hope this site will help you in some way.

Martin. ;D

P.S. Well done for graduating. I've tried a few times to complete courses but my illness has always got in the way.
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Re: Hello,
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2007, 03:50:24 PM »
Hello,

     Honestly I haven't found any consistent rules for living. However what helps me cope with anxiety is allowing myself to fall apart ( I can be quite hard on myself ! ) aswell as not getting too absorbed in my 'Illness', keeping up to date with friends and the like.

   Also what has put me off websites like these in the past (aswell as support groups) is that people seem to define themselves soley in terms of their illness and their 'imperfections'. I mixed with lots of different people at Uni, entrepreneurs, life coaches and have since meet millionaires and Dj's allsorts of people. I can honestly say that I see less and less of a distinction between 'succesful' people and the people I have read about on here ( who i hopefully will get to know better ) . That is something which helps me not hide under the covers quite so much.

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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2007, 04:27:27 PM »
Hi again,

For me, I think that it might help to at least formulate some basics. Like remembering to exercise when depressed and little reminders that chest pains have happened before and are only a symptom of anxiety. It might sound daft to some people but I change from an organised, resourceful extrovert into a total introvert in disarray when I get really 'bad'. I sometimes can't see the wood (,any wood,) for the trees.

I agree with what you say about 'websites like these'. I was hoping that a local focus would be more constructive than concentrating purely on the anxieties. Other websites were helpful at first as a reassurance that my problems were quite common but I soon became scared that I would 'learn' to develop a plethora of other anxiety related problems.  :o  I also saw that lots of people were developing 'friendships' that, in my opinion were helping to maintain their situations. I think that these friendships could be more positive if they might result in people meeting for coffee in the real world. I think that other sites can sometimes unintentionally encourage people to withdraw into chat rooms. I'm also hopefull that we can all identify better with each other's successes. For example ....

"Wow, I actually made it to Churchill Square today on the number 25!" actually means something to me and would help marry Cyberspace with Sussex ... er ... space. ::)

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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2007, 11:37:35 AM »
Hello,


     you're so right about exercise ! i had a pretty active job in Ibiza and thought I could get by just doing that- in truth i found myself feeling more and more shut out and ( this is typical of my behaviour) drifting from one newsagents/cafe to the next- just eating whatever the hell i felt like.I was telling myself that it was all fine- that this was exactly what I wanted and that there simply was no-one intresting enough for me to talk to . How can I honestly say that i've incorporated it into my life- when I can act like that and simply deny that there is anything wrong?it's just so mindless and brain numbing- that's the best way I can describe it - and people,friends say i'm not with it- (in truth people say that to me a fair bit even when i am with it so its easy for me to just brush it under the carpet.)  It doesn't help that that is normal for lots of people- i think people tell themselves they are happy switching off and using telly for their emotional needs. It might feel like that more for me because I grew up with a mum who was always sick and spent lots of time watching telly. ??? Right now I would like to know how you tell the difference between just cutting myself of from things and allowing healthy detachment ? Suppose that's the million dollar question ???

I did start keeping a diary when i was away- and that did help.but i felt cut off in my work and the people i was living with which didn't.Also the need to appear confident is pretty ingrained in my character- Its rare to meet people who appreciate that weakness goes hand in hand with strength. these are the kind of blatherings i normally reserve for my diary.

   I just got back from a jog down the beach - something I love about the sea is that every single day it brings in a different landscape. Will also look out for one of those exercise classes where you sit on space hoppers for an hour and use it for balancing and sit-ups and things. 

I feel like i've abused this website a bit by using it for a bit of a bitch, ..

Ems x

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Re: Hello,
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2007, 05:55:03 PM »
Hi Ems I have just read some of your mails and I really identify with all the stuff you have said, especially the bit about what is healthy detachment.  Im sitting here writing this feeling very lost and isolated even though I have amazing friends and an amazing son, its like you say it feels like you have to put on this positive confident front to the world even when inside it feels like utter fear and sometimes not even knowing what is so frightening, I suppose its just a feeling that is very hard to explain unless you have anxiety etc. Exersise is a help i do a lot of brisk walking though Ive been laid up with a bad head cold for a few days so not been out, sleeping loads and reading loads. Anyway Ems if you would like to chat or discuss anything it would be great to hear your thoughts, thanks and best wishes Eli

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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2007, 12:33:49 PM »
Hello Eli, nice to meet you  ;)   

    I don't have any children of my own yet, so can't imagine what it must be like having to look after a family. I know people who say that their children (how old is your son ?) accept their parents illnesses easily and are very good at providing an early warning system for them and wondered if that was the same for you ?

I have been reading 100 Q and A's  about Anxiety by Khleber Chapman Attwell (at my local library), an american pyschologist, which has thrown some new light on anxiety for me. its really easy to read. He says panic attacks can be our subconscious way of not letting ourselves get absorbed in the moment- treating ourselves like a watchman who must stay awake for duty. that's something I identify as I recently noticed my PA's can coincide with just relaxing with friends ! (there was quite a lot of conflict in my life growing up and i suspect that has something to do with it) I'm on the case.....

      hugs an happiness

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2007, 08:43:38 AM »
Hi Ems, how are you?

Thanks for your reply. My son Mathew is 18 and I have explained my anxiety and depression to him and he is very understanding, funnily enough he has studied psychology at college, how ironic!!! I dont know whether its a common trait with how we feel but I tend to feel a lot of guilt which I know logically is a useless emotion and serves no purpose but its there all the same. Guilt about things Ive not achieved because of the anxiety, guilt as a mother even though everyone tells me Ive done a great job especially on my own. Its like I never seem to acknowledge the good things I have done just the negative, but I suppose thats all part of it. I also have this thing about perfection, which I used to have quite badly and triggered OCD. Its a feeling of coping better if my flat is tidy, Im looking okay etc etc, God I dont know about you but its so debilitating at times. Anyway Ems I think Ive rattled on far too long but keep in touch and its nice to know your there and understand. Hugs and happiness...Eli  x